When I had four kids I start to play softball. We were in Ntjalka team; ntjalka is caterpillar. We played in Hermannsburg and in town. They was family team and I joined them. My two daughter was in that softball team and my nieces, they were family team. We won the game in Alice, we played Amoonguna, we won that. And I got best and fairest trophy. I was standing right field, that was my place. One Amoonguna lady, she was really champion, she hit the ball right to my hand. Smack. And then I catch it and the siren blew. And I was really champion, and now nothing, haha. That was 1984. Nowadays I can’t play, I’d be crawling.